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[bektas]

Hello everybody,

This year I am going to try to keep a blog on CV2 located at

http://cornellia2.blogspot.com/

I already sent invitations to your email addresses, if you didnt get it please go the site and apply for it. I didnt make it public yet, but maybe in the close feature I will.

I will post, what we do, what we buy, what is going to happen etc on there.
Make sure you become a member.

Bulent

[Neil Poutch]

Hi all,
We have just been wondering of late about the somewhat frequent repairs and works that continuously need doing on Cornellia.Both in terms of communally,that is flaking paint,broken pipes.etc and also in individual apartments,ie leaks,damp patches,etc.
This to my mind would be more understandable if the complex were decades old and not 3/4 years.And now we have a Blog to keep up with the repairs etc.Almost as if this level of damage is the norm in Turkey.I dont know,maybe it is?
Of course it goes without saying that yes there will always be need for repairs and general maintenance of our complexes.But the reason I bring this up is that in the ten years that my house here at home has been built we havent had to carry out ANY repairs in terms of leaks,broken plumbing,wiring,etc.And this issue of "siliconing" has me totally perplexed??Let me ask if any of you have to silicone windows and door edges at home every year?Let me ask if you've EVER had to silicone?!Apart from the bathroom!
Maybe I'm missing something here and maybe there is a reason for things being the way they are in Turkey and if so I'm all ears and open to correction.
What do you other Cornellians think on this???

[bektas]

I would like to answer this as I would be the best person this question is asked.
The reason residents are aware of problems in complex because I am making people more aware of these issues and trying to be transparent in what we do. Not being aware of these problems in the past didnt mean they never happened. Thats the reason I have started this blog because in the end of the season when people ask where do those money gone, I want people to know exactly where it's gone and I dont want to be accused of anything.

Secondly, please do not confuse these homes with the properties back in England. As you know, these properties built up rather quick with certain standards like many properties back in this region, and sometimes they come with problems to a degree. Here we expect people to take care of their homes  like many Turkish people does. If owner doesn't pay attention to their silicons around the window or groutings on their tile, then property is open to problem. Also there are always problems on the complex as well and I will make it all published. Some of the problems we had but never publish anywhere:
Broken lamps and poles around the pool area because people pushing each other to pool and they are grabbing the lamb pole not to fall into pool and dislocation/breaking it
Stepping on the swimming pool lights to get out resulting in breaking it resulting in complete change over
Dumping stuff that would clog the pipe resulting in breaking the pipe cleaning and putting it laying back again
Stepping on the aluminum bars resulting in bending and more others.

I think blog is a good idea to publish all the complex related news, which most of the times will show whats wrong and what has been done, but at least you would know whats happening.  Or if owners think, "what we dont know doesnt make us unhappy" I can totally remove blog and just do things.

Anyways, I am open to any thoughts or ideas of others as well so we can make things better

Bulent

[Neil Poutch]

Hi all,
       that was a fair enough reply from Bulent.I certainly agree that the new Blog is a good idea,the more information made available the better really.The part of the siliconing issue I dont get is the actual NEED for it.Why not just have the cement flush and sealed to the door and window frames?Why is there a gap that requires silicone at all?I dont want to drone on about something as simple as silicone itself,but its the failure of such a small product that can lead to big problems with damp and leaks.
One thing that certainly occurs to me from Bulents reply is that there should be more accountability from owners (and their guests) when it comes to silly behaviour.I have witnessed it myself, and suffered because of it, with regard to people blocking pipes with foreign objects and damaging light poles and the like through horseplay as Bulent says.This type of thing should not be paid for out of our maintenance costs but should be charged directly to the guilty party.How about this Bulent?
That is my opinion anyway.Let me say we continue to be happy with the service we receive from Sunescape and my observations are made for the same purpose as Bulent makes his suggestions, i.e. the betterment of the complex.

Best Regards.

[TIERNEY]

Hi  Neil

The Reason why  a  silicone seal is used around frames is that it is flexible, Pvc frames will expand and contract, if rendering was taken upto and around frame  it will  not  expand and contract  the same, so you would  have a slight gap  also the movement of the heavy doors  opening and closing would eventually  loosen  and damage the render.

Most of the builds /properties that i have have seen  in altinkum and throughout turkey are a concrete skeleton  and a single leaf/block  wall  which can be problematic, and i would suggest that this is the cause of many of the faults  re dampness around frames , your property at home  will have a cavity wall  with horizontal and vertical  D.P.C.  (damp proof courses) around frames etc to prevent bridging   also  to strict building control procedures, as Bulent pointed out  we cannot  compare  our property in turkey with our properties at home  Some of the  problems  that you mention in your first post  in my opinion  could be solved  in the building design  and incoporating  some of the basic  practices that we use at home

Also  my  property in turkey an  acryrlic  sealant as been used  and not silicone which as a higher  resistance  to   heat and water,cold  etc  and is more flexible  you might  be better taking  over in your suitcase,  as i have not seen any good quality yet in altinkum  if you use a good quality silicone you should only need to do it once   

I Would also  say that the few problems that i have  had in my apartment bulent and sunescape  have  always  been there to rectify  some  of  the faults  and  i hope  in  time  that some  of the other faults and problems  on the complexes  will  be  cured

Bulent and regarding  blogs we  already have a blog, this forum,  just read the post etc  where residents post there  faults, etc why have another one

Regards

Paul Tierney
E8 MF2

[Neil Poutch]

Thanks for all that info Paul.Things make more sense to me now regarding having a flexible surrounding to doors.Is there a particular brand or name of sealant that you could recommend and indeed I would bring some over in my suitcase when we go out in May.
You also make some good points with regard to the actual build design and it seems that we must accept that things are done differently in Turkey than here at home as Bulent mentioned.
With a name like Tierney you dont have a building background by any chance do you Paul?!

Thanks again.

Best regards.